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	<title>Comments on: When I was your age, Pluto was still a planet</title>
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		<title>By: Dos and don&#8217;ts for digi natives &#124; PRBLOGGER.COM - PR blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dos and don&#8217;ts for digi natives &#124; PRBLOGGER.COM - PR blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 11:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been a lot of talk about young people potentially harming their reputation online - along with many case studies. Digital Natives will be the first generation to live their lives branded by a Google [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;The Older the Berry, the Sweeter the Link Juice&#8221; &#171; BusinessWired</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;The Older the Berry, the Sweeter the Link Juice&#8221; &#171; BusinessWired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a bit of nattering lately regarding the advantages of youth and exuberance versus age and experience in the organic [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to be returning to this thread belatedly, but actually I&#039;m glad I waited, because the comment that interests me most comes right at the end:

&quot;...within a realm of experience that is necessarily limited by age.&quot;

Paul, I suggest an important parsing of terms here to amend your view and make it (more) compatible with David&#039;s:  the word &quot;necessarily&quot; in this phrase is false as a point of both logic and observation.

Deep grokking of social media may be mostly limited by age or even overwhelmingly limited by age, but it is not -- cannot be -- necessarily limited by age.  We can say this either by abstract analogy to other situations (*some* older language students acquire accentless Russian) or by observation of exceptions to your would-be rule (e.g. Robert Scoble).

Yes, I agree that it&#039;s about immersion; yes, a 22-year-old is far likelier to get that immersion than a 35-year-old (me), or a 40- or 50-something.  All true.  But this doesn&#039;t somehow preclude your elders from grokking social media deeply.

Also, sometimes those elders will include an Ed Sullivan:  an older stiff who may or may not get the music these crazy kids are playing today . . . but who wields massive influence on what the kids are doing and how they will be understood more broadly.

It&#039;s an ecosystem with niches that are mostly well delimited . . . but only mostly, not &quot;necessarily&quot; or utterly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be returning to this thread belatedly, but actually I&#8217;m glad I waited, because the comment that interests me most comes right at the end:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;within a realm of experience that is necessarily limited by age.&#8221;</p>
<p>Paul, I suggest an important parsing of terms here to amend your view and make it (more) compatible with David&#8217;s:  the word &#8220;necessarily&#8221; in this phrase is false as a point of both logic and observation.</p>
<p>Deep grokking of social media may be mostly limited by age or even overwhelmingly limited by age, but it is not &#8212; cannot be &#8212; necessarily limited by age.  We can say this either by abstract analogy to other situations (*some* older language students acquire accentless Russian) or by observation of exceptions to your would-be rule (e.g. Robert Scoble).</p>
<p>Yes, I agree that it&#8217;s about immersion; yes, a 22-year-old is far likelier to get that immersion than a 35-year-old (me), or a 40- or 50-something.  All true.  But this doesn&#8217;t somehow preclude your elders from grokking social media deeply.</p>
<p>Also, sometimes those elders will include an Ed Sullivan:  an older stiff who may or may not get the music these crazy kids are playing today . . . but who wields massive influence on what the kids are doing and how they will be understood more broadly.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an ecosystem with niches that are mostly well delimited . . . but only mostly, not &#8220;necessarily&#8221; or utterly.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill, although I&#039;ve made it clear I am through with Jeremy&#039;s comments, I find yours intriguing.  First and foremost, I assure you that &quot;insulting potential clients&quot; is something I avoid as much as the next guy :-)  

Secondly, however, I am intrigued by your rather innocent assertion that &quot;I recall too well being young and cocksure...&quot;  Will that always be the mantle behind which older generations hide?  It&#039;s perfectly acceptable to say a younger professional is ignorant because, &quot;He just doesn&#039;t know better yet.&quot; However, if the tables are turned and the question becomes whether or not the more senior practitioner is worth their salt, will it always be that the accuser is just &quot;Young/brash and doesn&#039;t UNDERSTAND because of his age.&quot; ?? At what point do the older practitioners have to take accountability for their own inexperience?

I make no claim to knowing everything.  Rather, I say that I have much to learn from people within a realm of experience that is necessarily limited by age.  Why is that so difficult for older practitioners to understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill, although I&#8217;ve made it clear I am through with Jeremy&#8217;s comments, I find yours intriguing.  First and foremost, I assure you that &#8220;insulting potential clients&#8221; is something I avoid as much as the next guy <img src='http://www.parmet.net/pr/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Secondly, however, I am intrigued by your rather innocent assertion that &#8220;I recall too well being young and cocksure&#8230;&#8221;  Will that always be the mantle behind which older generations hide?  It&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to say a younger professional is ignorant because, &#8220;He just doesn&#8217;t know better yet.&#8221; However, if the tables are turned and the question becomes whether or not the more senior practitioner is worth their salt, will it always be that the accuser is just &#8220;Young/brash and doesn&#8217;t UNDERSTAND because of his age.&#8221; ?? At what point do the older practitioners have to take accountability for their own inexperience?</p>
<p>I make no claim to knowing everything.  Rather, I say that I have much to learn from people within a realm of experience that is necessarily limited by age.  Why is that so difficult for older practitioners to understand?</p>
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		<title>By: POP! PR Jots</title>
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		<dc:creator>POP! PR Jots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Crowdsourcing :: DOs and DONTs of Online Reputation Managment : my PRception</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crowdsourcing :: DOs and DONTs of Online Reputation Managment : my PRception</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] great discussion lately about how young people should be presenting themselves online and even some case studies about what happens when you type before you think. For better or worse (I tend to think better), we [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Sledzik</title>
		<link>http://www.parmet.net/pr/2007/10/17/when-i-was-your-age-pluto-was-still-a-planet/comment-page-1/#comment-208624</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Sledzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the other old farts, I&#039;ve been active in social media for more than a decade. I like to think I &quot;get it,&quot; but my knowledge isn&#039;t on par with David or Jeremy, who live and breathe it daily. But I&#039;m one of those geezers who knows that learning never stops. (And Jeremy, I know you aren&#039;t a geezer.)

I&#039;m more than willing to forgive Paul for insulting the 40somethings (or in my case 50somethings), as I recall too well being young and cocksure.  The older you get the more you appreciate how much more there is to learn -- and experience. I would also caution Paul about insulting potential clients.  That&#039;s bad for business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the other old farts, I&#8217;ve been active in social media for more than a decade. I like to think I &#8220;get it,&#8221; but my knowledge isn&#8217;t on par with David or Jeremy, who live and breathe it daily. But I&#8217;m one of those geezers who knows that learning never stops. (And Jeremy, I know you aren&#8217;t a geezer.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more than willing to forgive Paul for insulting the 40somethings (or in my case 50somethings), as I recall too well being young and cocksure.  The older you get the more you appreciate how much more there is to learn &#8212; and experience. I would also caution Paul about insulting potential clients.  That&#8217;s bad for business.</p>
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		<title>By: Becki</title>
		<link>http://www.parmet.net/pr/2007/10/17/when-i-was-your-age-pluto-was-still-a-planet/comment-page-1/#comment-207094</link>
		<dc:creator>Becki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - what a discussion, makes my mere comments on my blog seem boring.  Here&#039;s to the old and young!  http://becki325.wordpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; what a discussion, makes my mere comments on my blog seem boring.  Here&#8217;s to the old and young!  <a href="http://becki325.wordpress.com/">http://becki325.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Young PR &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Crowdsourcing :: Reputation Management for Digital Natives</title>
		<link>http://www.parmet.net/pr/2007/10/17/when-i-was-your-age-pluto-was-still-a-planet/comment-page-1/#comment-206516</link>
		<dc:creator>Young PR &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Crowdsourcing :: Reputation Management for Digital Natives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been a lot of talk about young people potentially harming their reputation online - along with many case studies. Digital Natives will be the first generation to live their lives branded by a Google [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pepper</title>
		<link>http://www.parmet.net/pr/2007/10/17/when-i-was-your-age-pluto-was-still-a-planet/comment-page-1/#comment-206444</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t a bait - it&#039;s a sincere question. But, well, it appears you have to have the last word.</description>
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