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		<title>By: HeavyGod</title>
		<link>http://www.parmet.net/pr/2007/11/15/at-the-edge/comment-page-1/#comment-231766</link>
		<dc:creator>HeavyGod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really good and really interesting post. I expect (and other readers maybe :)) new useful posts from you! 
Good luck and successes in blogging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really good and really interesting post. I expect (and other readers maybe <img src='http://www.parmet.net/pr/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) new useful posts from you!<br />
Good luck and successes in blogging!</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Maruggi</title>
		<link>http://www.parmet.net/pr/2007/11/15/at-the-edge/comment-page-1/#comment-227372</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Maruggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear brethren in honesty,  

Todd thank you for the hat tip on the social media is a people place not a market place line.  I look forward to meeting you at the Society for New Communications Research event in Boston in a couple of weeks. 

I must share with you a blog exchange I just had Sunday morning 11/18, that is equally disturbing that made my skin crawl.  

In a post yesterday I followed up on that concept here http://tinyurl.com/2m8t9j In the ultimate irony, a commenter used the opportunity to post and promote his new social media marketing blaster as he calls it.  I am not sure exactly what this tactic is, but using terms like attacking the social media market and becoming a force in social media, as he does on his website are detrimental to the development of this people place.  

Separate from the example above, those who think that social media are places to exploit through some covert posting are participating in a blatant manipulation of trust.  Trust is the underpinning of social media, blogs, and the unprecedented benefits our society can gain from developing these new forms of human discovery.  

I apologize to those who think I am overreacting.  I have been kicking this issue of trust in the blogsphere around for more than a year. It is not marketing or PR to willfully mislead a reader.   That is called lying and it is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear brethren in honesty,  </p>
<p>Todd thank you for the hat tip on the social media is a people place not a market place line.  I look forward to meeting you at the Society for New Communications Research event in Boston in a couple of weeks. </p>
<p>I must share with you a blog exchange I just had Sunday morning 11/18, that is equally disturbing that made my skin crawl.  </p>
<p>In a post yesterday I followed up on that concept here <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2m8t9j">http://tinyurl.com/2m8t9j</a> In the ultimate irony, a commenter used the opportunity to post and promote his new social media marketing blaster as he calls it.  I am not sure exactly what this tactic is, but using terms like attacking the social media market and becoming a force in social media, as he does on his website are detrimental to the development of this people place.  </p>
<p>Separate from the example above, those who think that social media are places to exploit through some covert posting are participating in a blatant manipulation of trust.  Trust is the underpinning of social media, blogs, and the unprecedented benefits our society can gain from developing these new forms of human discovery.  </p>
<p>I apologize to those who think I am overreacting.  I have been kicking this issue of trust in the blogsphere around for more than a year. It is not marketing or PR to willfully mislead a reader.   That is called lying and it is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I received the same proposal, if not, then there&#039;s a proliferation of these Social Media &quot;Optimization&quot; companies out there and it&#039;s CRAZY. I printed it out to show people because I didn&#039;t think anyone would believe me if I told them what they proposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I received the same proposal, if not, then there&#8217;s a proliferation of these Social Media &#8220;Optimization&#8221; companies out there and it&#8217;s CRAZY. I printed it out to show people because I didn&#8217;t think anyone would believe me if I told them what they proposed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pepper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, the &quot;I&#039;ve pitched him five time already - and I can follow up once more&quot; lines I hear from &quot;social media&quot; PR people.

Gonna barf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, the &#8220;I&#8217;ve pitched him five time already &#8211; and I can follow up once more&#8221; lines I hear from &#8220;social media&#8221; PR people.</p>
<p>Gonna barf.</p>
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		<title>By: Encouragement from those Dedicated to Quality &#171; Youngblood PR &#38; Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Encouragement from those Dedicated to Quality &#171; Youngblood PR &#38; Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on 15.11.07: Here are some newer posts you might also find of interest: At the Edge by David Parmet The Scandal That Will Knock Marketing On Its A$$ by Todd Deferen (cc Flickr photo [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on 15.11.07: Here are some newer posts you might also find of interest: At the Edge by David Parmet The Scandal That Will Knock Marketing On Its A$$ by Todd Deferen (cc Flickr photo [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Defren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Defren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone noted in the Comments of that post:  &quot;Social Media is a people place not a market place.&quot;  Love that line.  Wish I&#039;d come up with it!

In the last paragraph, David, you&#039;re talking about Media Relations as much as Blogger Relations.  It&#039;s like Kyle Flaherty recently noted (http://www.engageinpr.com/2007/11/13/corporate-social-media-pr-people-get-smart/): &quot;people who are really bad at PR are going to be really bad at social media.&quot;

That&#039;s ALWAYS been the case.  The problem NOW is that the bad guys are increasingly exposed but don&#039;t change; the good guys bear the brunt of the shit storm.

Stop the hamster wheel, I wanna get off! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone noted in the Comments of that post:  &#8220;Social Media is a people place not a market place.&#8221;  Love that line.  Wish I&#8217;d come up with it!</p>
<p>In the last paragraph, David, you&#8217;re talking about Media Relations as much as Blogger Relations.  It&#8217;s like Kyle Flaherty recently noted (http://www.engageinpr.com/2007/11/13/corporate-social-media-pr-people-get-smart/): &#8220;people who are really bad at PR are going to be really bad at social media.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s ALWAYS been the case.  The problem NOW is that the bad guys are increasingly exposed but don&#8217;t change; the good guys bear the brunt of the shit storm.</p>
<p>Stop the hamster wheel, I wanna get off! <img src='http://www.parmet.net/pr/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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