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	<title>Comments on: Should PR Own Social Media?</title>
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		<title>By: Antidote Web Design</title>
		<link>http://www.parmet.net/pr/2008/12/30/pr-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-372540</link>
		<dc:creator>Antidote Web Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Educating your staff so that they will get involved in social networking, for indirectly a commercial purpose.  Will it elevate to a stage where social-spamming gets out of hand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Educating your staff so that they will get involved in social networking, for indirectly a commercial purpose.  Will it elevate to a stage where social-spamming gets out of hand?</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Roche</title>
		<link>http://www.parmet.net/pr/2008/12/30/pr-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-371845</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Roche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answer in my view - no.  Why? No one owns social media or can within any business, impossible to do so or for one part of the business to say what and how things should be done as the flow keeps on moving and changing.  Your people will be all over social media even if you ban it in the office.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Education is important from within the business and externally - look at what peers are doing. Educate your staff to be useful to your business in this space as more business will be done this way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PR, well that will have to change it&#039;s name not only how it does things.. PR is dead</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answer in my view &#8211; no.  Why? No one owns social media or can within any business, impossible to do so or for one part of the business to say what and how things should be done as the flow keeps on moving and changing.  Your people will be all over social media even if you ban it in the office.</p>
<p>Education is important from within the business and externally &#8211; look at what peers are doing. Educate your staff to be useful to your business in this space as more business will be done this way.</p>
<p>PR, well that will have to change it&#39;s name not only how it does things.. PR is dead</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Deak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Deak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and I agree with you David. The question is if traditional PR-agencies will unlearn and relearn what social media is all about in time. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I see it there are so many fields coming together in social media that I wonder if we shouldn&#039;t consider to let go of traditional breakdowns in PR, advertisement, marketing etc. For the next years to come I&#039;d wage on the need for a new renaissance social media man - a jack-of-all-trades - rather than verticals of focused specialists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The reasons that many PR-agencies wave with new applications in the faces of their clients is probably that they have become redundant. You no longer need the connections with the journalists to the same extent as before and being human qualifies you to communicate with other people. All you need is to now what options and possibilities you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and I agree with you David. The question is if traditional PR-agencies will unlearn and relearn what social media is all about in time. </p>
<p>As I see it there are so many fields coming together in social media that I wonder if we shouldn&#39;t consider to let go of traditional breakdowns in PR, advertisement, marketing etc. For the next years to come I&#39;d wage on the need for a new renaissance social media man &#8211; a jack-of-all-trades &#8211; rather than verticals of focused specialists.</p>
<p>The reasons that many PR-agencies wave with new applications in the faces of their clients is probably that they have become redundant. You no longer need the connections with the journalists to the same extent as before and being human qualifies you to communicate with other people. All you need is to now what options and possibilities you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Haslam</title>
		<link>http://www.parmet.net/pr/2008/12/30/pr-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-371768</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Haslam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, the owning debate isn&#039;t over yet?  why of course PR should own social media because...because... I&#039;m in PR. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Actually, the reason I actually feel that way is that PR is communications, and conversational media seems more readily adaptible to that. Advertising? If ad people can adapt to the 2-way model (and I don;t mean just interactive chickens) then ok, make an argument. our fair cousins in Marketing? Just don&#039;t treat fellow facebookers or Tweeters like lead-gen targets or direct-mail statistics and you could be fine. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Customer service? that&#039;s a bit closer-- you could argue that  somewhere in it&#039;s heart, customer service is a form of PR.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;that said, I agree there is still change and evolution ahead for most Pr practitioners. The industry as a whole is a big, slow-moving beast. I suspect the movement in the right direction will slowly continue (and stop well short in many circles). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Would love to hear Marketing and Ad&#039;s cases for &quot;owning&quot; social media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, the owning debate isn&#39;t over yet?  why of course PR should own social media because&#8230;because&#8230; I&#39;m in PR. </p>
<p>Actually, the reason I actually feel that way is that PR is communications, and conversational media seems more readily adaptible to that. Advertising? If ad people can adapt to the 2-way model (and I don;t mean just interactive chickens) then ok, make an argument. our fair cousins in Marketing? Just don&#39;t treat fellow facebookers or Tweeters like lead-gen targets or direct-mail statistics and you could be fine. </p>
<p>Customer service? that&#39;s a bit closer&#8211; you could argue that  somewhere in it&#39;s heart, customer service is a form of PR.</p>
<p>that said, I agree there is still change and evolution ahead for most Pr practitioners. The industry as a whole is a big, slow-moving beast. I suspect the movement in the right direction will slowly continue (and stop well short in many circles). </p>
<p>Would love to hear Marketing and Ad&#39;s cases for &#8220;owning&#8221; social media.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Parnell</title>
		<link>http://www.parmet.net/pr/2008/12/30/pr-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-371763</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Parnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree with both of you, Michael and David. Education is key for both our firms&#039; teams and our clients. But more importantly our clients must understand up front that social communities are about investing in the future and building the strong relationships that can carry their organization through economic times like today. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great blog post, David. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree with both of you, Michael and David. Education is key for both our firms&#39; teams and our clients. But more importantly our clients must understand up front that social communities are about investing in the future and building the strong relationships that can carry their organization through economic times like today. </p>
<p>Great blog post, David. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: David Parmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Parmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retainers are going to have to come down to earth. And agencies are going to have to invest a lot in education. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Organizations like yours and work like I am involved in goes a long way to help move the ball. But I don&#039;t think we&#039;re going to see much change until the market forces agencies to change the way they do business,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retainers are going to have to come down to earth. And agencies are going to have to invest a lot in education. </p>
<p>Organizations like yours and work like I am involved in goes a long way to help move the ball. But I don&#39;t think we&#39;re going to see much change until the market forces agencies to change the way they do business,</p>
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		<title>By: Michael E. Rubin, Blog Council</title>
		<link>http://www.parmet.net/pr/2008/12/30/pr-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-371760</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael E. Rubin, Blog Council</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s missing here is one word: EDUCATION.  A lot of what needs to happen is good, solid education about what social media is, how it works, and more importantly, how it doesn&#039;t.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with you that it&#039;s not about using the next new shiny tool to shout out a client&#039;s message.  But too many clients feel like they&#039;re paying a LOT per month in billings, and dammit, they oughta&#039; be getting something in return for it.  It&#039;s incumbent upon PR agencies to explain to their clients that social media is not as simple as &quot;insert X to get Y&quot; and that it&#039;s more about building relationships and connections.  It may not translate well on a monthly billing spreadsheet, but it will certainly help in the long run.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Terrific post and thoughts.  I tweeted it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#39;s missing here is one word: EDUCATION.  A lot of what needs to happen is good, solid education about what social media is, how it works, and more importantly, how it doesn&#39;t.  </p>
<p>I agree with you that it&#39;s not about using the next new shiny tool to shout out a client&#39;s message.  But too many clients feel like they&#39;re paying a LOT per month in billings, and dammit, they oughta&#39; be getting something in return for it.  It&#39;s incumbent upon PR agencies to explain to their clients that social media is not as simple as &#8220;insert X to get Y&#8221; and that it&#39;s more about building relationships and connections.  It may not translate well on a monthly billing spreadsheet, but it will certainly help in the long run.</p>
<p>Terrific post and thoughts.  I tweeted it.</p>
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